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Family of Johannes WISELY and Jenny MONGEL

  • Husband:

  • Johannes WISELY (1760-aft1815)

  • Wife:

  • Jenny MONGEL ( - )

  • Marriage:

  • Oct 22, 1807

  • Wythe County, Virginia, USA1

  •  

  • This is possibly a second marriage for John/Johannes Weisel. Various spelling variations were used in land surveys, property tax, godparent of his younger brothers Daniel and Peter. Oct 2, 1783=John Whitsel; Nov 18, 1792 John Weitzel as godparent to John Jacob Weissle, son of Daniel Weissle and Elizabeth; Sept 15, 1799 John Weisel, god parent to Elizabeth, daughter of Peter Weissle and Magdalena; Sep 20,1799 John Whitsell; Nov 18, 1809 John Witsell land survey; Feb 7, 1815 John Whitsell, land survey.

Husband: Johannes WISELY

  • Name:

  • Johannes WISELY

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Father:

  • Johannes Frederick WEISEL (1716-bef1782)

  • Mother:

  • Elisabeth KOHLER (1734?-aft1782)

  • Birth:

  • 1760

  • Pennsylvania, USA2

  •  

  • (Calculation of John's age of 18 at 1778, we record he was born in 1760.)

     

    John is recorded on Page 6. Noncommissioned officers and privates at POWHATAN COURTHOUSE -

    Name: John Wisely

    Age: 18 (Calculation of John's age of 18 at 1778, we record he was born in 1760.)

    Trade: planter

    Residence: Frederick (Frederick Co., VA)

    Born: Pennsylvania

    Note - The Powhatan Courthouse was built in 1778.

     

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Virginia_Ancestors_and_Adventurers.html

    https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/49387/

    Virginia Ancestors and Adventurers, Volumes 1-3, By Charles Hughes Hamlin

    Page 1. Revolutionary War Size Rolls:

    Location: The Virginia State Library, Richmond 19, Virginia

    Title: Revolutionary Army, Volume 1 - Register [Accession #2496]

     

    Page 3 - Noncommissioned officers and privates at POWHATAN COURTHOUSE

    Page 6 - John Wiseley, Age: 18, Trade: planter, Residence: Frederick (Frederick Co., VA), Born: Pennsylvania

     

    Note - The Powhatan Courthouse was built in 1778.

  • Military:

  • Jul 12, 1778 (age 17-18)

  • 4th Regiment, Private; Virginia, USA3,4,5,6

  • Son:

  • Mar 5, 1782 (age 21-22)

  • Probate

  • Possessions:

  • Oct 2, 1783 (age 22-23)

  • -; Wythe County, Virginia, USA7

  • Military:

  • May 28, 1784 (age 23-24)

  • Virginia, USA8

  • Religion:

  • 1794 (age 33-34)

  • -; Wythe County, Virginia, USA9

  •  

  • Address: Zion Church Lutheran Church

  • Census:

  • 1810 (age 49-50)

  • Unknown

  •  

  • -https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY2-PBQ

    Neither Johannes Wisely, John S. Wisely, John David Wisely, or Michael Wisely were found in the 1810 census for Wythe County. Only Daniel and Peter Wisely were recorded in the 1810 census.

    -https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YY6-S2V6

    Neither Johannes Wisely, John S. Wisely, John David Wisely, or Michael Wisely were found in the 1810 census for adjacent Montgomery County.

  • Possessions:

  • Feb 7, 1815 (age 54-55)

  • -; Wythe County, Virginia, USA10

  • Death:

  • aft 1815 (age 54-55)

  • Virginia, USA

Wife: Jenny MONGEL

  • Name:

  • Jenny MONGEL

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • -

  • Mother:

  • -

  • Death:

  •  

  •  

Note on Husband: Johannes WISELY

Neither John or Margaret Wisely was found in the 1790, 1810, 1820, 1830, 1840, or 1850 census.

 

Michael Wisely, who served in the War of 1812, placed as the son of Johannes b. 1760, could also be the son of Michael b. ~1775 or John David b. ~1773.

Sources

1.

Archive - LDS FHL Historical Record Collections https://familysearch.org/ Historical Record Collections https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list. Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940. The Family History Library of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 35 North West Temple Street

Salt Lake City , Utah 84150

United States. Tel: 1-866-406-1830, Web: www.familysearch.org.

Name: John Weitzell

Sex: Male

Spouse's Name: Jenny Mongel

Spouse's Sex: Female

Marriage Date: 22 Oct 1807

Marriage Place: Wythe, Virginia, United States

Event Type: Marriage

Source Details: Page 33

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89XF-2939-7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89XF-29QQ-Q

Citing this Record: "Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRMZ-151 : 29 January 2020), John Weitzell, 1807.

2.

Book. Virginia Ancestors and Adventurers, Volumes 1-3 By Charles Hughes Hamlin.

Virginia Ancestors and Adventurers, Volumes 1-3, By Charles Hughes Hamlin

Page 1. Revolutionary War Size Rolls:

Location: The Virginia State Library, Richmond 19, Virginia

Title: Revolutionary Army, Volume 1 - Register [Accession #2496]

https://books.google.com/books/about/Virginia_Ancestors_and_Adventurers.html

https://books.google.com/books?id=QRc50Kn1A88C&lpg=PP1&pg=PA6

 

Volume 1, Page 3 - Noncommissioned officers and privates at POWHATAN COURTHOUSE

Page 6 - John Wiseley, Age: 18, Trade: planter, Residence: Frederick (Frederick Co., VA), Born: Pennsylvania

 

Note - The Powhatan Courthouse was built in 1778.

3.

Web - https://www.ancestry.com/. U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783.

Name: John Wisely

Gender: Male

Military Date: 12 Jul 1778

Military Place: Virginia, USA

State or Army Served: Virginia

Regiment: 4th Regiment

Rank: Private

Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783; Microfilm Publication M246, 138 rolls; NAID: 602384; War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records, Record Group 93; The National Archives in Washington, D.C.

Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/4282/images/miusa1775a_113648-00738

Muster Roll of Capt Kirkpatricks Company of the 4th Virginia

Number 46: John Wisely, War, Sick af Spring

4.

Ibid. Revolutionary War Records: Virginia.

Revolutionary War Records: Virginia

Description: Section: Section II

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/48615/images/RevWarRecs-002162-276

Revolutionary War Records: Virginia

 

Page 276, Wisely, John, Soldier, Cav

5.

Ibid. Historical Register of Virginians in the Revolution.

Historical Register of Virginians in the Revolution

Alphabetical Register of Virginians in the Revolution

In the Revolution

Soldiers Sailors Marines

1775-1783 by John H. Gwathmey

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/48423/images/RegisterVARev-003205-i

Page 841 Virginians in the Revolution

Wisely, John, Cav., nbll.

Wiseley, John, of Frederick, E.

Page xiii - Key to Abbreviations and Symbols

E. -- "Index of the Revolutionary records in the Virginia State Archives", compiled by Dr. H. J. Eckenrode in 1912 and 1914.

nbll. -- Name appeared on Army Register but had not received bounty land. An extensive compilation in the War Department.

6.

Book. Virginia Ancestors and Adventurers, Volumes 1-3, Page 6.

Virginia Ancestors and Adventurers, Volumes 1-3, By Charles Hughes Hamlin

Page 1. Revolutionary War Size Rolls:

Location: The Virginia State Library, Richmond 19, Virginia

Title: Revolutionary Army, Volume 1 - Register [Accession #2496]

 

Page 6. Noncommissioned officers and privates at POWHATAN COURTHOUSE

Name: John Wiseley

Age: 18

Trade: planter

Residence: Frederick

Born: Pennsylvania

The Revolutionary War was fought 1775-1783. The Powhatan Courthouse was built in 1778. Calculation of John's age of 18 at 1778, we record he was born in 1760.

7.

Archive - LDS FHL Historical Record Collections https://familysearch.org/ Historical Record Collections https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list. Records of surveys, 1790-1910 ; general index to surveys, 1790-1910. The Family History Library of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 35 North West Temple Street

Salt Lake City , Utah 84150

United States. Tel: 1-866-406-1830, Web: www.familysearch.org.

Wythe County, Virginia - Land and property

General index to surveys, no. 1, 1790-1910 (typescript; indexes v. 1-4) -- Record of surveys, no. 1, 1790-1800 (p. 1-4 missing) -- Record of surveys, no. 2, 1799-1808.

Film: 34241, DGS: 8573909

Whitsel, John 65; 1; 183

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C377-C9VT-T

Page 183, Image 169:

Surveyed for John Whitsel 65 acres of land by Virtue of an entry on part of a Land office Treasury Warrant for - acres N 19,689 dated the 2 day of October 1783 ... Lying in Wythe County on the Waters of Cripple Creek, Begin at a white oak in ...

 

8.

Web - https://www.ancestry.com/. U.S., Compiled Revolutionary War Military Service Records, 1775-1783.

U.S., Compiled Revolutionary War Military Service Records, 1775-1783

Surname Range: T - Z

Ancestry.com. U.S., Compiled Revolutionary War Military Service Records, 1775-1783

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/63709:1309

Image 1784: 5894 Wisely, John - Virginia (Revolutionary War.)

Private - Private; Card Numbers. 1, 39172509

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/63709:1309

Image: 1785: W | Cav | VA.

John Wisely, Sol Cav

By who Received: Math Rust

Day when: May 28, 1784

Sum: £ 23-5-

Vol. 176; page 322, Rev Pearson?

9.

Book. Zion Church, Wythe County, Virginia 1791-1835, 975.5773 k2k Page i.

Church and baptism book for the congregation on Cripple Creek in Wythe County Virginia, called Zion Lutheran Church : founded in 1791

Ritter, Guy A., Jr.

Zion Church, Wythe County, Virginia 1791-1835, 975.5773 k2k

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/556796/ (Page 3 & 4)

 

At the time of the dedication [1794] the congregation consisted of the families belonging partly to the Reformed and partly to the Lutheran Church.

The families who were members of the Reformed group were: Peter Spengler, Deacon, John Weizel, ... Peter Kinzer, ... Peter Weissle.

10.

Archive - LDS FHL Historical Record Collections https://familysearch.org/ Historical Record Collections https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list. Records of surveys, no. 3, 1807-1835 -- Record of surveys, no. 4, 1835-1910. The Family History Library of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 35 North West Temple Street

Salt Lake City , Utah 84150

United States. Tel: 1-866-406-1830, Web: www.familysearch.org.

Wythe County, Virginia - Land and property

Records of surveys, no. 3, 1807-1835 -- Record of surveys, no. 4, 1835-1910. Film: 34242, DGS: 8742679

Johnn Whitsell Page 40, Acres 50

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-J36T-KQMP Image 50:

"Surveyed for John Whitsell 50 acres of land by virtue of an entry the 20th day of Jan 1815 [NOTE - dates were overwitten, orginal November 1809] on part of a land office Treasury Warrant ... lying in the County of Wythe on the Waters of the Middle Fork of Holston River and bounded as follows..."